Comments on: Dribbble, Meritocracy and the Open Web http://www.darrenhoyt.com/2010/03/09/dribbble-meritocracy-and-the-open-web/ Web Design + Development Wed, 01 Feb 2012 19:00:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Rave3000 http://www.darrenhoyt.com/2010/03/09/dribbble-meritocracy-and-the-open-web/#comment-5863 Rave3000 Sun, 15 May 2011 01:36:12 +0000 http://www.darrenhoyt.com/?p=1960#comment-5863 Just a follow up . I'm a proud member of dribbble for two months now and, + now I'm a proud Pro Member. I've now been granted two invitation to dribbble and I'm looking for prospects to join. I've gone through lots of porfolios and I'm still looking for good talent. This is what sets dribbble apart from any other site. People are looking for good talent not just average talent but strong design, illustration, website, User Interface ... Top notch #"$% talent. Something to inspire you in the morning when you use up your 15 min. before you open up your mail. Feel free to send me a link to your stuff and I'll check it out. Best Raven Just a follow up . I’m a proud member of dribbble for two months now and, + now I’m a proud Pro Member. I’ve now been granted two invitation to dribbble and I’m looking for prospects to join. I’ve gone through lots of porfolios and I’m still looking for good talent. This is what sets dribbble apart from any other site. People are looking for good talent not just average talent but strong design, illustration, website, User Interface … Top notch #”$% talent. Something to inspire you in the morning when you use up your 15 min. before you open up your mail.

Feel free to send me a link to your stuff and I’ll check it out.

Best
Raven

]]> By: izle http://www.darrenhoyt.com/2010/03/09/dribbble-meritocracy-and-the-open-web/#comment-5862 izle Sun, 15 May 2011 00:36:51 +0000 http://www.darrenhoyt.com/?p=1960#comment-5862 What of the ?’The users of that site feel like they have something special going on. This is what Dribbble has achieved What of the ?’The users of that site feel like they have something special going on. This is what Dribbble has achieved

]]> By: muzik dinle http://www.darrenhoyt.com/2010/03/09/dribbble-meritocracy-and-the-open-web/#comment-5861 muzik dinle Sun, 15 May 2011 00:36:24 +0000 http://www.darrenhoyt.com/?p=1960#comment-5861 What of the ?’The users of that site feel like they have something special going on. This is what Dribbble has achieved and you almost have to wonder whether they should just leave it this way. Why ruin a working model?’ What of the ?’The users of that site feel like they have something special going on. This is what Dribbble has achieved and you almost have to wonder whether they should just leave it this way. Why ruin a working model?’

]]> By: Raven http://www.darrenhoyt.com/2010/03/09/dribbble-meritocracy-and-the-open-web/#comment-5860 Raven Wed, 09 Mar 2011 15:55:25 +0000 http://www.darrenhoyt.com/?p=1960#comment-5860 My thoughts on this matter are these. Don't go public, why should you? People look up to dribbble members. Not because their members. But because they offer something rare... Beautiful talent, in many different ways, you guys make the day brighter! Some of us (hint!!!) none members marvel at the your talents and crave for a chance to be involved in shaping the future. The future is built by the masses by visionaries like us :) I would be honored if you would visit my page www.rave3000.com and see if I'm worthy of being a member. As you know, building your own website is slowwww. So if you send me a email I'll send you some of my works (images), in hope of getting an invite to dribbble. Thanks Raven. My thoughts on this matter are these. Don’t go public, why should you? People look up to dribbble members. Not because their members. But because they offer something rare… Beautiful talent, in many different ways, you guys make the day brighter! Some of us (hint!!!) none members marvel at the your talents and crave for a chance to be involved in shaping the future. The future is built by the masses by visionaries like us :)

I would be honored if you would visit my page http://www.rave3000.com and see if I’m worthy of being a member.

As you know, building your own website is slowwww. So if you send me a email I’ll send you some of my works (images), in hope of getting an invite to dribbble.

Thanks
Raven.

]]> By: John S http://www.darrenhoyt.com/2010/03/09/dribbble-meritocracy-and-the-open-web/#comment-5859 John S Sun, 26 Sep 2010 17:19:32 +0000 http://www.darrenhoyt.com/?p=1960#comment-5859 If a so-called famous designer uploads a flat black circle on a while background, it will get hundreds of "likes". If an unkown designer uploads a really good piece, we can only hope it will at least get one "like". If a so-called famous designer uploads a flat black circle on a while background, it will get hundreds of “likes”. If an unkown designer uploads a really good piece, we can only hope it will at least get one “like”.

]]> By: anne bebek http://www.darrenhoyt.com/2010/03/09/dribbble-meritocracy-and-the-open-web/#comment-5858 anne bebek Wed, 26 May 2010 15:12:40 +0000 http://www.darrenhoyt.com/?p=1960#comment-5858 @Jon Bergan What of the ?'The users of that site feel like they have something special going on. This is what Dribbble has achieved and you almost have to wonder whether they should just leave it this way. Why ruin a working model?' @Jon Bergan

What of the ?’The users of that site feel like they have something special going on. This is what Dribbble has achieved and you almost have to wonder whether they should just leave it this way. Why ruin a working model?’

]]> By: Luke http://www.darrenhoyt.com/2010/03/09/dribbble-meritocracy-and-the-open-web/#comment-5857 Luke Wed, 19 May 2010 16:28:05 +0000 http://www.darrenhoyt.com/?p=1960#comment-5857 Why have you copied by comment verbatim? Why have you copied by comment verbatim?

]]> By: Bruce http://www.darrenhoyt.com/2010/03/09/dribbble-meritocracy-and-the-open-web/#comment-5856 Bruce Wed, 19 May 2010 15:16:10 +0000 http://www.darrenhoyt.com/?p=1960#comment-5856 Designers - on the whole - are a very egocentric lot and, while the pursuit of quality should definitely be at the forefront of any design-led community, the formation of cliques and elitist bubbles isn't necessarily healthy. A defining feature of a meritocracy, should be that the system is accessible to all. People need to be able to have a 'punt', even if they are likely to fail. Let's be honest here.... I'd be very surprised if there are many dribbble members who _don't_ currently enjoy being able to tell people that they're part of this site. I'd also be willing to bet that a large number of these people don't want to loose the 'social currency' that dribbble provides. However, I don't think this is a good enough reason to keep a community closed. The site sounds like it can provide a valuable resource for peer revue - which is a process that ultimately helps us all to become better designers. I believe the focus should be on self-improvement rather than hero-worship and self-validation. If this web-application isn't able to effectively sort the wheat from the chaff in it's current form - perhaps it needs to remain in beta until it is able to allow quality content to automatically rise to the top? I agree that intimacy is something that's very important in the creation of on-line communities, and I find the subject incredibly interesting; but, it's important to be honest about the motivation behind keeping a community closed. I'd argue that it should be possible to create closed (private) sub-alliances (groups) within the site. This way, the founding members of the site could still interact with each other, without fear of contamination from the great unwashed :) At the same time, other designers would be free to form new groups and create their own criteria and goals. Or is dribbble simply destined to become ffffound 2.0 ? Designers – on the whole – are a very egocentric lot and, while the pursuit of quality should definitely be at the forefront of any design-led community, the formation of cliques and elitist bubbles isn’t necessarily healthy.

A defining feature of a meritocracy, should be that the system is accessible to all. People need to be able to have a ‘punt’, even if they are likely to fail.

Let’s be honest here…. I’d be very surprised if there are many dribbble members who _don’t_ currently enjoy being able to tell people that they’re part of this site. I’d also be willing to bet that a large number of these people don’t want to loose the ‘social currency’ that dribbble provides. However, I don’t think this is a good enough reason to keep a community closed.

The site sounds like it can provide a valuable resource for peer revue – which is a process that ultimately helps us all to become better designers. I believe the focus should be on self-improvement rather than hero-worship and self-validation.

If this web-application isn’t able to effectively sort the wheat from the chaff in it’s current form – perhaps it needs to remain in beta until it is able to allow quality content to automatically rise to the top?

I agree that intimacy is something that’s very important in the creation of on-line communities, and I find the subject incredibly interesting; but, it’s important to be honest about the motivation behind keeping a community closed.

I’d argue that it should be possible to create closed (private) sub-alliances (groups) within the site. This way, the founding members of the site could still interact with each other, without fear of contamination from the great unwashed :) At the same time, other designers would be free to form new groups and create their own criteria and goals.

Or is dribbble simply destined to become ffffound 2.0 ?

]]> By: Community Expectations | Darren Hoyt Dot Com http://www.darrenhoyt.com/2010/03/09/dribbble-meritocracy-and-the-open-web/#comment-5855 Community Expectations | Darren Hoyt Dot Com Mon, 10 May 2010 14:57:28 +0000 http://www.darrenhoyt.com/?p=1960#comment-5855 [...] opened to the public last month while generating a lot of discussion about community and exclusivity. Drawar runs a great community of its own where this week users discussed what disappointed them [...] [...] opened to the public last month while generating a lot of discussion about community and exclusivity. Drawar runs a great community of its own where this week users discussed what disappointed them [...]

]]> By: Trafford http://www.darrenhoyt.com/2010/03/09/dribbble-meritocracy-and-the-open-web/#comment-5854 Trafford Fri, 30 Apr 2010 16:01:42 +0000 http://www.darrenhoyt.com/?p=1960#comment-5854 We're low we're low, mere rabble we know... I'm in agreement with the man Paul Burton above; the way it's being operated right now is elitist by default. I like Dribble and I want to use it, but until the invites trickle down to my network, I'm not going to get an invite. This is frustrating and brings out the class warrior in me, I don't want to feel this way, but when I see the top table metaphoring away, it riles me. I say open it up, and see what happens, I think you'll find the quality stays well above average. It won't turn into ffffound because it has a different purpose, it's not about posting any image that caught your eye, it's above showcasing your own work. We’re low we’re low, mere rabble we know…

I’m in agreement with the man Paul Burton above; the way it’s being operated right now is elitist by default. I like Dribble and I want to use it, but until the invites trickle down to my network, I’m not going to get an invite. This is frustrating and brings out the class warrior in me, I don’t want to feel this way, but when I see the top table metaphoring away, it riles me.

I say open it up, and see what happens, I think you’ll find the quality stays well above average. It won’t turn into ffffound because it has a different purpose, it’s not about posting any image that caught your eye, it’s above showcasing your own work.

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